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Cultivation of Courage Versus Impulsive Violence

Robert Bowers doesn’t seem to have thought about how to influence people without firearms.

by Hadding Scott

IN THIS audio excerpt I discuss with Matt Heimbach and Christopher Cantwell what Robert Bowers could have done that would have been more useful than hoarding guns and shooting up a synagogue:
 

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Here Zan Overall, the “Wise Old Man,” exhibits the steady self-control that Robert Bowers lacked. There is another video wherein he stands outside a synagogue declaring that the Holocaust is a hoax, and is confronted by angry Jews:

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21st Century WN
21st Century WN

A wife-beater like Matt Heimbach (who had sex with his father-in-law’s wife) should not be showcased on a National Alliance website. Either we hold “family values” in high esteem, or we do not. Either we value the sanctity of marriage and children, or we do not. And Matt Heimbach valued neither.

Kevin Alfred Strom
Kevin Alfred Strom

I don’t know anything about Heimbach except that he once said that he put his Christian church higher in his scale of values than his race. But I do trust Hadding Scott. Probably Mr. Scott had no control over the guest list — it’s not his program — and had no intention of promoting Heimbach. The show is likely simply a vehicle for getting his ideas out to an audience. Dr. Pierce was interviewed by racemixer Art Bell and the Jew Mike Wallace, among many other similar examples, and the interviews weren’t endorsements. I myself was interviewed by the New York Times yet promoting them was certainly the farthest thing from my intention. It’s good you brought the issue up, if those allegations are true, so that everything is clear.

Will Williams
Will Williams

21ST CENTURY WN: A wife-beater… who had sex with his father-in-law’s wife should not be showcased on a National Alliance website. Either we hold “family values” in high esteem, or we do not… — Who’s “we,” Mr. 21st Century Man? What’s your association with the National Alliance that you’ll say something as stupid as “NA is showcasing” some low life because Hadding had, to his misfortune, a recorded, impromptu dialog about the points he wanted to make, with that low life individual. Not good “optics,” as they say. Some missed Hadding’s points because of the “Movement” drama of false associations made. Blame the Internet show’s host for giving up his mic to the lowlife. Hadding’s post-show assessment of the tag-team as questionable role-models seems too kind to me. But that’s… Read more »

21st Century WN
21st Century WN

My comments were not intended as any reflection on Hadding Scott or Christopher Cantwell, since I am only familiar with their public personas. Their personal lives are not known to me. On the other hand, Matt Heimbach’s indiscretions were widely documented by both ally and enemy alike, so these charges are not a “smear job” by the leftist media – even though they did make hay with it. Up until Heimbach’s implosion, he had a loyal wife who supported his views and his activism. What she got in return for that loyalty was Heimbach jumping into bed with his father-in-law’s wife while her back was turned taking care of their children. And he jumped into that other woman’s bed not once, but multiple times. As a result, he destroyed not… Read more »

Hadding
Hadding

Neither Heimbach nor Cantwell is an ideal role-model, but that’s beside the point.

21st Century WN
21st Century WN

21st Centurey WN: “Up until Heimbach’s implosion, he had a loyal wife who supported his views and his activism.” Hadding, in response to the above: “Neither Heimbach nor Cantwell is an ideal role-model, but that’s beside the point.” And that’s one of several reasons why our efforts at recruitment have stagnated – precisely because loyalty to family, marriage, and children in the WN movement has become “beside the point”. Whether it’s Matt Heimbach beating up on his wife or Richard Spencer (allegedly) beating up on his, it’s “business as usual” because “the show must go on”, right? How about this: if it’s proven that you’ve done what Matt Heimbach has done, then you’re not invited to appear on a WN podcast ever again? In other words, you’re finished. Over with.… Read more »

Hadding
Hadding

Since you have crossed all the imperfect people off of your list, who remains that is fit to converse with you?

Hadding
Hadding

I think that there must be more serious accusations than marital infidelity, to be made against Bill Clinton and Harvey Weinstein. Conservatard media like to stir outrage about peccadilloes instead of the offenses that really matter. Bombing Serbia into the stone age is fine, but we’re going to obsess over Monica Lewinsky. You show yourself as a smallminded noob by talking this way. Heimbach and Cantwell are both intelligent guys with drive, who are capable of doing things and have dared to do things in a milieu where not many people are doing much. I also see no reason to doubt their sincerity. They were good interlocutors for what I wanted to discuss. If anybody is in a position to persuade large numbers of people within or on the fringes… Read more »

Will W Williams
Will W Williams

I don’t follow the so-called alt-right and don’t know the first thing about Cantwell except that he values Heimbach’s opinions, and yours. I do not value the Heimbach’s opinions whatsoever, having met him several years ago and witnessed first-hand his overweening arrogance and confident, glib line of scripture-citing patter. ‘Toward the Stars’ had this to say about him, here, 3 and 1/2 years ago, and those words still ring true today, as far as the National Alliance’s position with these “movement” characters goes: https://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2148&hilit=matt+heimbach — Sun Jun 28, 2015 Heimbach has jumped around to different esoteric philosophies in his short period in the spotlight. This is dangerous for any young person to do, since they may end up regretting having made certain public statements later in life. He is much… Read more »

Hadding
Hadding

I see your photo of Heimbach from his Trad Youth days holding his homemade Orthodox cross and a placard that says “Jesus loves you.” That is a somewhat one-sided representation. There is also a photo of Heimbach holding that Orthodox cross with one arm, while he holds an antifa in a headlock with the other. While I find his judgment about some things questionable, Heimbach is no wimpy Christian. That guy fights. From what I know of Traditionalist Workers’ Party, it was a remarkable project that Heimbach and Matt Parrott put together. They took young White men who had problems like drug addiction and helped them to fix their problems and gave them a sense of purpose, which was expressed in demonstrations of courage amid public events. TWP was a… Read more »

Travon Martinberg
Travon Martinberg

There is need for new leadership in White Nationalism, and it will have to come from the young (with their past indiscretions and daliances with multiculturalism and Christianity) who can speak to others of their age-group to change the direction of the movement that is now dependent upon getting rid of the jews. As I’ve said, climate change is the monster that WN ignores, but may be a means to achieve its goals. Today’s federal report at https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/ predicts a northern migration, indirectly, saying “While some regions (such as the Northern Great Plains) may see conditions conducive to … crop productivity over the next few decades, overall, yields from major U.S. crops are expected to decline.” Bad news when migrant and illegal immigration rises too. As you know, at least… Read more »

Will Williams
Will Williams

I see your photo of Heimbach from his Trad Youth days holding his homemade Orthodox cross and a placard that says “Jesus loves you.” That is a somewhat one-sided representation. That’s the side of your unwimpy Christian fighter that gets me, and is enough for me to discount him. [He] now affiliates with National-Socialist Movement. NSM is an organization with a bizarre history and a lot of baggage, including that carnivalesque flag that they use. I wonder how that is going to work out. It should work out fine for NSM and for him. They’ll remain on the fringe together and attract defectives away from the National Alliance. NA will be Heimbach-proof as best it can be. Never again Hal Turners, Frank Weltners or others of their ilk speaking for… Read more »

Hadding
Hadding

I appreciate Dr. Pierce’s idea of keeping his organization separate from the false ways and defective personalities of the “patriot movement” or other racial organizations. But I don’t think that it’s realistic to say that the National Alliance is not affected by what these other organizations and personalities do. If one entity makes a colossal blunder, it has ramifications for the others. The fact that there is no formal connection whatsoever doesn’t prevent this. For example, Dylann Roof’s spree shooting has had bad consequences for Jared Taylor and the CCC, just because Dylann Roof had read their materials. Robert Bowers’ spree shooting had bad consequences for Gab, which Gab now seems to be overcoming. Regarding the National Alliance, the Oklahoma City Bombing had a big effect, because McVeigh had once… Read more »

Travon Martinberg
Travon Martinberg

The recording’s content brought up a contradiction. White nationalists consider all jews to be the enemy, regardless of any jew’s age or ideology, sharing the guilt of working ruthlessly toward white genocide. But when a violent defense against the jews’ plan is attempted, such as the Pittsburgh synogogue shooting, the targets individually turn out not to be actively employed agents of white genocide. Of the 11 people Bowers shot, none had any direct control over US foreign and immigration policies or their media support, or key roles in lawsuits legalizing pornography and miscegenation, or in lobbying for the 1965 civil rights laws, etc., other than their stupid election votes and political donations to the Democrats. Their deaths were pointless. Bowers did nothing to help the WN cause; he completely bypassed… Read more »

Ted Truewil
Ted Truewil

When our enemies see this infighting, they GLOAT. Present a united front.

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cc

Modern day racism is covered with dissension on the national level. Different feuds in religion and politics.

As a teenager, I cut my teeth on southern racism in the 2d half of the 1960s. A very tumultuous time. We were cut from the same bolt of cloth — same culture — perfect communication. I don’t remember any arguments. Everything was reduced to its lowest common denominator. Southern down-homers contended for White separation only. That’s all nature requires. We attracted the attention of the Federals. Those people reinvaded southern soil.

cc
cc

The Alt-right and Daily Stormer are joined at the hip. From day one, both outfits received preferred media attention. No merit; no experience. Federalist/
republicans promoting the party. The title ‘Alt-right’ has a Jewish ring to it. Stage managed. The Daily Stormer compared Trump to Hitler during the campaign.

Sethmoto101
Sethmoto101

Bower’s gab pic says “my glock family”. He would’ve accomplished infinitely more if he had a real family with several kids, instead.